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  tidbits from recent C.O. visit

  by nowwhat? in

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  "all people in the world are currently considered enemies of god" gee i wonder where some poeple get the idea that we are an extremist organization.. " jehovahs chariot is moving forward at blazing speed!

  " in what reality is contraction and downsizing moving forward?.

  "it used to be that if a congregation reached 150 publishers we would split into 2 congregations now if we have 2 congs.

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  It used to be that if a congregation reached 150 publishers we would split into 2 congregations now if we have 2 congs."

  That's because in the years of double-digit increases they could count on growth..... now contraction is the order of the day.
  
  
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  July's watchtower leaves out some important info from a quote!

  by stavro in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  jerome over on discuss the truth has picked up on something interesting.. in the july watchtower on page 28 of the article entitled “winning the battle for your mind” the following statement is made “keep in mind that satan does not want you to think clearly or reason things out well.

  because propaganda is likely to be most effective, says one source, if people… are discouraged from thinking critically.”.

  the quote comes from a book entitled: “media and society in the twentieth century: a historical introduction by lyn gorman, david mclean" the watchtower however, chose to leave out a portion of the quote.. the full quote is "therefore, it is likely to be most effective if people do not have access to multiple sources of information and if they are discouraged from thinking critically.. the following sentence which the watchtower also decided was best not to include states,.

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  Easier than ever, thanks to the wonders of Google and other search engines.
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  Watchtower & Guns

  by freemindfade in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  apparently jehalapeno isn't a 2nd amendment supporter either.... .

  july 17 questions from readers.... the way this part is worded screams cult to me, i was quite amused.. how a christian chooses to protect himself, his family, or his possessions is, of course, largely a personal matter, as is his choice of employment.. geee!

  thanks watchtower for allowing me to "largely chose my own employment" you are a generous cult lol.

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  The fine print in this case is "LARGELY" ... as "largely (but not always)," etc.etc.

  Another weasel word for the unwary.
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  What not to say...

  by joey jojo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hey guys.

  i was recently talking to a old friend who is a very active elder.

  i was talking about ' the truth' and he suggested i sounded like an apostate because i used terms like ' the society' and ' watchtower '.. i am aware that ' dubspeak ' has changed over the years and i am pretty sure that someone posted about it here but i can't find the thread.

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  What then are we supposed to call this cult?
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  Warwick Tour Brochure

  by konceptual99 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so we had this posted in the mega topic thread... wt: warwick world hq tour brochure.

  the new world headquarters of jws, located at warwick, new york, will open for tours on monday, april 3, 2017.. in anticipation, a new eight-page glossy brochure about this facility has now been released:.

  download pdf: https://download-a.akamaihd.net/files/media_cmsassets/70/fo_s-whq_e.pdf.

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  You mean we get to hang out with these guys? No thanks, I'll pass!
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  It's right there in our faces, how could we NOT see it?

  by NikL in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i know there have been many many posts on here over the years on the deity of jesus.. i am submitting this one because i am feeling a little confused.. the thing is, i am not the sharpest knife in the drawer and i know this.

  so when i am going through my bible reading (to all you haters, yes i still do it) i see so many scriptures that just fly in the face of everything the jws teach about jesus.. i begin to wonder if indeed i am diseased in the mind ,as they will try to paint me, because it seems so plain to me.. i never even gave it a though growing up as to if jesus and god were equal.

  i just didn't.. now when i read scriptures like philippians 9.... 9 for this very reason, god exalted him to a superior position+ and kindly gave him the name that is above every other name,+ 10 so that in the name of jesus every knee should bend—of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground+— 11 and every tongue should openly acknowledge that jesus christ is lord+ to the glory of god the father.. .

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  In fairness, I think WT has made a fair argument against Jesus being God Almighty, if not his divinity.
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  February 26, 2017 TO ALL BODIES OF ELDERS Re: Witnessing in Public Places

  by wifibandit in

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  february 26, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: witnessing in public places.

  and.

  february 25, 2017 to all congregations re: magnetic boards and posters for public witnessing.

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  "All donations that are forwarded to the branch office are used for various aspects of the worldwide work, including disaster relief, support for missionaries and circuit overseers, construction of Kingdom Halls, and the production and distribution of Bibles and other publications."

  Hmm, no reference here to legal defense costs, settlement payouts.
  
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  JWs leaving the cult, here is a story of one family.

  by Crazyguy in

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  2. friends

  so a friend of mine will start with him.

  he's a typical jw goes to meeting helps out a lot uses his truck to move stuff around for the cult etc.. his wife gets bored with life and goes on a fornication spree and then gets dfd.

  he didn't like the way it was handled and himself during this time of emotional chaos has a minor indiscretion and gets privately reproved.

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  Not a suitable family for an interview at the next Circus Assembly...
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  My Introduction - An ex-elder's story of waking up later in life.

  by doubtfull1799 in

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  2. experiences

  background:.

  my parents got the “truth” while i was in primary school.

  i was baptised at 14. i loved school and was extremely studious.

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  "My awaking is almost identical to yours. Just fade off into the sunset. If you disassociate it might drive a wedge between you and your wife."

  Welcome! I quite agree with this advice. It's actually to their credit that those liberal elders gave you a pass when you articulated your misgivings, and were willing to let you fade into the sunset.
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  So JW's are not allowed to vote because.... "no part of this world." Ok then explain why the WTBTS lobbied politicians on numerous

  by kpop in

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  2. current

  sorry if this was posted before but if it was then it is worth repeating and discussing.

  the hypocrisy of the jw cult knows no bounds.

  supposedly, the reason jw's are not allowed to vote is because they must not be a part of this world.

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  I recall one incident in NYC during the mayoralty of Ed Koch. A group of JWs were demonstrating in front of City Hall over some issue relating to zoning. His Honor surveyed the scene from his office window, turned to an aide and remarked: "there's not a single vote among 'em."